Minutes of the Committee Meeting of the B.M.F.A. North West Area held on 8/5/2001 at the Millstone Public House Golborne.
Persons Present
Chris Bromley FSMAE / Area Chairman
Steve Ogden Area Secretary/ PMAG
Roy Allam Area V/Chairman / Ach Scheme Co-Ord / Fylde Coast MFA.
Tom Anyon Blackpool MHC/A.C.E.
Derek Gilbert Area Treasurer / Sale MAC
David Lloyd-Jones Area Pro/CLMG
Wayne Pendleton Area R/C Comp.Sec. / Academy Flyers
Geoff Pomfret Skelmesdale MAC Mem Sec & Tres
Fred Skinner Barton MFC Chairman
Graham Green Southport MAC
Max Lloyd Skelmesdale MAC Sec/Lleyn MAC
Ken Griffiths Blackburn & DMAC
Gerry Ferer Timperley MF
Sue Reeves PMAG
14 Persons Present 12 Eligible to vote. Meeting opened at 8.10pm.
1) APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE
Mike Colling (Area Delegate) had apologized at the previous meeting for being
unable to attend this meeting.
2) MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING
Meeting held on 10/4/2001
There were a few amendments and correction, which were noted.
The minutes were then proposed as a true record by Academy Flyers and seconded
by Tymperley .
For 1 Against 0 Abstentions 2
3) MATTERS ARISING
Tom Anyon PNW Editor told the meeting that he had given the talk to the 41 club,
that he had been requested to do. He had offered the opportunity to attend to
the Southport club whom had declined but wished him well. Tom took several aircraft
to display and was well received. The Area thanked Tom for his work, as these
sorts of contacts could be very useful in the future.
Chris Bromley (FSMAE Area Chairman) mentioned that he had been working on the BMFA web site improving the links. When completed these would be easier to use and provide a little more information in the dialog boxes than at present. Roy Allam (Area Vice-Chairman) asked Steve Ogden (Area Sec) if it was possible to increase the font size used when compiling the minutes of the meetings. Steve Ogden replied that he sent the minutes to the office in A4 format using a size 10 font. The minutes were then copied and resized to A5, which is a better size for posting. He added that he had noticed that this resulted in the font reducing even further but was not aware that this made the difficult to read for some of the recipients. He said that in future he would compile the minutes using a size 12 font which even when reduced should be easier to read for everyone.
Chris Bromley added that he was also working on affiliation form but it was not an easy task. Finally Chris said that he had mentioned the Area's concerns to the Ach.Sch.Review Committee and their should be an addition to the guidelines something like "any ACE asked to perform testing outside of their own Area must liase with the Ach.Sch.Controller of the candidates own Area to obtain approval"
4) CORRESPONDENCE
Derek Gilbert (Area Treasurer) has received the awaited questionnaire about
Area funding. He would discuss this in more depth in his report.
5) OFFICERS REPORTS
Steve Ogden stated that he was unable to take the trade stand to the Barton
Bash and that also Mike Colling could not deliver the education stand has he
was at council meeting. Mike asked Steve if he could arrange for a volunteer
to collect the stand from him and to take it to Barton and set it up on Saturday.
Mike would then collect it on Sunday. Gerry Ferer said that he would take this
on.
Roy Allam stated that he had received a letter from Mike Rudge who was unhappy about not being appointed an ACE for the NW Area. Roy has replied saying that he had missed the point and that he had not been turned down but that the Area had decided not to appoint anyone to that position and to review the need for a ACE in that area at the AGM.
Roy had also received a letter from Mike Golby concerning the Dolphin club. The club had several requests and concerns over the appointment of new club examiners. The meeting talked about the situation at length and decided that they were happy with the ACE appointed to the task and saw no reason to ask another ACE to test the candidates.
Tom Anyon said that Martyn Thatcher had suggested a different format for submission of PNW to the web pages unfortunately this would increase the file size to 7meg with the associated increase in upload time.
Derek Gilbert (Area Treasurer) outlined the funding questionnaire he had received from the office. The meeting talked at length about funding in general and the questions involved in particular. Derek completed the questionnaire with the co-operation and assistance of the meeting.
6) COUNCIL AGENDA
Mike Colling had requested guidance on the way to vote at the next Council Meeting.
The item regarding the appointment of a Chief Executive encouraged a good debate.
The arguments for and against the idea were put forward. Chris Bromley explained
about the funding allocation proposal, why it was that sum and what it may be
used for if at all. Chris Bromley did state that he did have an interest in
the matter being one of the instigators of the proposals and thought that this
was the way forward for the society.
Sale MAC proposed that Mike Colling be advised to vote in favor of the 2 proposals
concerning the appointment of a Chief Executive. This was seconded by Academy
Flyers and was passed by the meeting unanimously.
It was also decided that Mike should support the application for BARCS to become an affiliated body.
Chris Bromley outlined some of the other proposals and the reasoning behind them.
7) AEROSPACE CHALLENGE
Steve Ogden has of yet received any information or correspondence concerning
the challenge. The Area's other officers have had no information has yet either.
Chris Bromley said that he would find out if any had been sent and if so where
to?
8) NW AREA FLY-IN
Wayne Pendleton (Area R/C Comp Sec) reported that everything was going to plan
at the moment.
9) AOB
A, Steve Ogden (Area Sec) said that he felt we needed to change the date of
the Area AGM so that the Area Chairman could attend, as he was unavailable on
the date as set. Derek Gilbert asked if the room was available the following
week 11th Dec. 2001.The room was available. The meeting decided to change the
date of the AGM to 11 December 2001 at 8.00pm.This was proposed by CLMG and
seconded by BMHC and was passed unanimously.
B, PMAG had been seeking suitable venues for the proposed Area Indoor Fly-In. They had come across an excellent venue but it was quite expensive. Chris Bromley asked to liase with Alan Cantwell and draw up some firm costing for the next meeting.
C,Chris Bromley asked Geoff Pomfret how the preparations for the Eddie Ridding Competition were developing. Geoff reported that he had already received some entries but had sent nothing out as yet. This was because he was not sure of the availability of Woodvale. Chris Bromley assured him it would take place and to start sending out details.
The Meeting ended at 10.40pm. These minutes are provisional until approved at the next meeting 12/6/2001.
S.F.Ogden North West Area Secretary