PERSONS PRESENT
Chris Bromley FSMAE Area Chairman
Steve Ogden Area Secretary/ PMAG
Roy Allam Area V/Chairman / Ach Sch Co-Ord / FCMFA.
Tom Anyon Blackpool MHC/A.C.E.
Derek Gilbert Area Treasurer / Sale MAC
David Lloyd-Jones Area Pro./CLMG
Mike Colling FSMAE Area Delegate / Wigan MFC
Sue Reeves Area Education Co-Ord./PMAG
Wayne Pendleton Area R/C Comp Sec/Academy Flyers
Geof Pomfret Area Scale Comp Sec
Max Lloyd Lleyn MAC/Skelmesdale MAC
Graham Pile Runcorn MA
Stephen Headland Rochdale MAC
Gerry Ferer Timperley MF
Keith Barker Rochdale MAC
J. Radcliffe Timperley DMFC
16 Persons Present 11Eligible to vote. Meeting opened at 8.05pm.
1) APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE
Malcolm and June Harding sent apologies for not being able to attend. Allan
Miller Clwyd SA sent his apologies for not being able to attend.
2) CORRESPONDENCE
There was no correspondence to be discussed.
3) MINUTE OF THE LAST MEETING
Meeting on the 12/3/02
There were some spelling corrections noted. And also a unclear paragraph which
was modified.
These were proposed as a true record by Rochdale MAC and seconded by CLMG
Passed unanimously.
4) MATTERS ARISING
Tom Anyon (Editor PNW) presented to the meeting the listing he uses for the
distribution of PNW. Chris Bromley FSMAE (Area Chairman) said that Tom only
needed to ask the office to send out PNW to all the Area's club sec's plus the
delegates and the Area's officers.
David Lloyd Jones (Area PRO) stated that he had spoken to Martyn Thatcher (Area
Webmaster) about our web pages. He reported that Martyn was willing to alter
the site to our requirements. Chris Bromley suggested that we invite Martyn
to the next meeting to discuss what we want.
ACTION AREA SEC
Chris Bromley FSMAE suggested to Roy Allam (Area Ach Sch Co-Ord) that any club sec's having problems with the affiliation forms should be referred to the Handbook. He added that things may be clearer when the RI (registered Instructor) is removed from membership cards at the end of this year.
Keith Barker (Rochdale) asked what had the Area Sec found out about the "undisclosed" Tockwith accident report. Chris Bromley FSMAE responded by telling the meeting that the report referred to was instigated on the request of the CAA. This report far from containing unreported information was actually instrumental in retaining Tockwith as a flying site. He added that it was not presented at Council, as the facts it contained were already known. Chris then offered everyone in the room the opportunity to browse his copy of the document if they wished.
Steve Ogden (Area Sec) reported that he had bumped into the gentleman concerned in the incident who was satisfied that he had been treated fairly.
5) OFFICERS REPORTS
Derek Gilbert (Area Treasurer) said that he had filled in and returned the latest
questionnaire concerning Area finances. He added that he expects this matter
to roll on and on.
Roy Allam (Area Ach Sch Co-Ord) stated that he had still not received a full
listing of Approved and registered Instructors from the office. He was also
lacking 30 plus affiliation forms as well.
ACTION CHRIS BROMLEY
David Lloyd Jones (ACE Area PRO) reported that he had tested several candidates recently.
Sue Reeves (Area Ed Co-Ord) said that she was going to do a workshop at a disabled school in Chester. She hoped to introduce the pupils to the Fun Copters and if conditions allow, Steve Ogden (Area Sec) will demonstrate several RC models.
6) COUNCIL AGENDA
Mike Colling FSMAE (Area delegate) went through several items of interest to
the meeting. He pointed out his strong support for the introduction of safety
guidelines for indoor RC flying. Which he believed was long overdue. Steve Ogden
(Area Sec/ Delegate RC Power Tech Com) agreed with Mike in principle but thought
the proposal needed amending and he would present some suggestions at the Council
meeting on Saturday.
Chris Bromley FSMAE (Area Chairman) stated that the proposed changes to the Handbook need to go through so that he could compile the new version. These changes would be ready for distribution from the following Monday. And would be included in the new issue of the handbook that is due out in September.
7) NW AREA FLY-IN / RC INDOOR FLY-IN
Wayne Pendleton (Area RC Comp sec) reported that everything were in motion.
He finished by asking David Lloyd Jones (Area PRO) to complete the posters for
the event. And to bring them to the next meeting ready for distribution.
Steve Ogden(Area Sec) asked David Lloyd Jones (Area PRO) if he had made any
progress with finding a venue for another NW Area RC Indoor Fly-in. DLJ replied
that he had made no progress as yet.
ACTION DLJ
At this point Geof Pomfret (Area Scale Comp sec) asked if he could have the usual expenses to by prizes for the Eddie Riding Competition. Derek Gilbert (Area Treasurer) agreed.
8) AREA EXPENCES
Steve Ogden (Area Sec) asked if there was a set regime for awarding expenses
to persons doing work for the Area. After a short discussion it was agreed that
if someone asked to do a task for the Area, which they would not normally do
and that would leave them out of pocket, should present a claim to the Treasurer
for approval. It was suggested that you check first before any outlay.
9)COUNTRY MEMBER POSTINGS
DAVID Lloyd Jones (Area PRO) stated that if a Country member wished to receive
copies of PNW they should provide stamped envelopes for the purpose. Chris Bromley
FSMAE said that it would be easier for the office to add them to our distribution
list and then the Area ask for a donation of £3 towards the costs.
10 AOB
Timperley MF
Said that he noticed in the Tech Council Minutes that stocks of the "Awards
Certificates" were getting low. Chris Bromley FSMAE (Area Chairman) replied
that it was the Records Certificates that were getting low and that they in
the process of being re-designed.
Timperley MF
Asked as to why award certificates were being used at "Non Official"
BMFA events. Chris Bromley FSMAE (Area Chairman) said that the certificates
have always been available for purchase by organisers of events. If they were
only to be used at BMFA organised events it would require a proposal putting
to Council to alter the terms of reference.
Timperley MF
Also asked if frames could be made available for the display of award certificates
for those wishing them. Chris Bromley FSMAE (Area Chairman) said that a proposal
would need to be formulated and presented to Council.
The Meeting ended at10.35pm.These minutes are provisional until approved at the next meeting
SF Ogden NW Area Sec