Persons Present
Roy Allam Area V/Chairman / Ach Sch Co-Ord / FCMFA.
Steve Ogden Area Secretary / PMAG
Tom Anyon ACE
Derek Gilbert Area Treasurer / Sale MAC
David Lloyd-Jones Area Pro / CCMAA.
Mike Colling FSMAE / Area Delegate / Wigan MFC
Sue Reeves Area Education Co-Ord / PMAG
Geoff Pomfret Area Scale Comp Sec / Skelmesdale MAC
Keith Barker Rochdale MAC
S.Headland Rochdale MAC
Gerry Ferer Timperley MF
CH Hargreaves Whitefield MAC
12 Persons Present 9 Eligible to vote. Meeting opened at 8.05pm.
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1) APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE
Chris Bromley FSMAE / Area Chairman was unwell and therefore unable to attend.
Alan Cantwell, Max Lloyd, and Jim Radcliffe also sent their apologies.
2) CORRESPONDENCE
Steve Ogden (Area Sec) reported that he had received a letter informing him
of the death of Harry West SAA.
3) MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING
4/02/03
There were some minor corrections noted and a suggestion attributed to David
Lloyd Jones was amended.
These were proposed as a true record by Rochdale MAC, seconded by CCMAA Passed
unanimously.
4) MATTERS ARISNG
David Lloyd Jones (Area PRO) stated that he had received 4 responses to the
advert in the BMFA News asking for help from teachers. He was asked to keep
both Sue Reeves and Mike Colling informed of developments.
5) OFFICERS REPORTS
Roy Allam (Area Ach. Sch. Co-Ord) reported that he had received a letter from
Peter Spurnway (Power Ach Sch Controller). He has requested that the area adopt
as an ACE someone moving to our area, since retiring from the RAF.
There was a good debate on the matter. The meeting agreed that Roy should write
to both parties declining the offer at the present time but affirming that the
person's details will be kept on file.
This was proposed by CCMAA and seconded by Sale MFC. The voting was,
For 7 Against 0 Abstentions 2
ACTION RA
Geoff Pomfret (Area Scale Comp Sec) asked if it was OK to have some forms for
the Eddie Riding Contest produced by the office. Derek Gilbert (Area Treasurer)
said that he should have the area billed for the work. Geoff added that he would
need least 2 new judges this year as regretfully 2 stalwarts of the competition
had passed away.
AGENDA ER NEXT MEETING
Sue Reeves (Area Ed Co-Ord) said that she was aware of some changes had been made to the BMAC but did not have any details as yet. Sue also reported that the first outing of the stand to the Buxton swapmeet had raised £25. Sue has plans to be at most NW Area shows and also has a visit to Hastings with the stand pencilled in.
Mike Colling FSMAE (Area Delegate) stated that the paper for the millennium darts had been printed and that he as yet had no firm details of the BMAC.
Steve Ogden (Area Sec) mentioned that whilst manning the trade stand the most requested document was the "Risk Assessment Forms". Keith Barker Rochdale MAC asked if they were available on the web site. Steve stated that he did not think that they were, but that it was a good idea to have them available as a download.
6) COUNCIL AGENDA
Mike Colling FSMAE (Area Delegate) went through the Agenda for the next full
Council meeting. And then the meeting discussed the points raised. One item
that was hotly discussed was the new document relating to child protection issues.
The meeting felt that as the majority of them had not seen the document they
could not form a proper opinion of the paper. The meeting decide therefore to
trust the 2 Area officers whom will be attending the meeting to make an informed
judgement on the matter. He added that Area co-ordinators will be asked to write
to ACE's asking if they wish to be ACI's.
7) BMAC
Sue Reeves (Area Ed Co Ord) stated that the BMAC was ongoing but as stated earlier
she had no details of any changes.
AGENDA BMAC NEXT MEETING
8) NW AREA INDOOR R/C FLY - IN
David Lloyd Jones (Area PRO) stated that the Indoor Fly-In was still on hold
with some work still to be completed. He added that there was a problem recruiting
members and may not be viable. This of course could scupper our event. There
was a discussion of the options available to us. David was asked to continue
working on the matter and then to report back.
ACTION DLJ
9) NW AREA FLY - IN
Steve Ogden (Area R/C Comp Sec) said that the plans were progressing well and
that he had booked the loo. He asked for a local volunteer to be on hand when
the loo was delivered, as any mistakes could lead to the loss of the venue for
future events. There was quite a protracted debate about the matter with no
one willing to do the job. There were calls for the Fly-In to be cancelled over
the matter. Steve said that he might know someone to do the task. He said that
he would ask the person. Derek Gilbert (Area Treasurer) said that he would personally
collect and deliver the fencing or arrange someone to do the job.
ACTION SO & DG
10) PNW EDITOR
The meeting was asked if anyone would like to take on the position. As there
was no response the item was to defer this matter to the next meeting.
Steve Ogden (Area Sec) said that as an interim measure he would be willing to continue to add notices of events to the end of the distributed minutes given suitable notification.
11) AOB
Rochdale MAC asked if the BMFA could step in and do something about the unsafe
flying at Sandown. The meeting talked about the issue for quite a while. The
conclusion reached was that the BMFA could only become involved if asked by
the CAA to do so. It was not the policy of the BMFA to interfere with the running
of clubs or events.
Steve Ogden (RCPTC Delegate) informed the meeting of a new show to be held on the 23rd - 25th August as a replacement of the Nationals Showline. Details will be published in the BMFA News soon.
The meetings ended at 10.35
These minutes are provisional until approved at the next meeting.
S.F.Ogden North West Area Secretary