Persons Present
Chris Bromley FSMAE Area Chairman
Roy Allam Area V/Chairman / Ach Sch Co-Ord / FCMFA.
Steve Ogden Area Secretary / PMAG
.Mike Colling FSMAE / Area Delegate / Wigan MFC
Sue Reeves Area Education Co-Ord / PMAG
David Lloyd Jones Area PRO / CCMAA
Tom Anyon NW ACE
Geoff Pomfret Area Scale Comp Sec / Skelmesdale MAC
Roy Lever Academy Flyers
James Abbott Barton MFC
Alan Cantwell Oldham & DMAC
Mike Eccles Southport MAC
Stephen Headland Rochdale MAC
Keith Barker Rochdale MAC NW Area Webmaster
John O'Donnell Timperley MF
Gerry Ferer Timperley MF
Max Lloyd Lleyn MAC
Jim Radcliffe Timperley & DMFC
18 Persons Present 12 Eligible to vote. Meeting opened at 8.00pm.
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1) APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE
Derek Gilbert sent his apologies for not being able to attend and asked if a
record could be made of the mileage claims.
2) CORRESPONDENCE
There was no correspondence to report.
3) MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING 3/02/04
These were proposed as a true record by Rochdale MAC, seconded by Tymperley
MAC
Passed unanimously.
4) MATTERS ARISNG
Chris Bromley (Area Chairman) reported that the new general manager David Phips was settling in well to his new position.
5) OFFICERS REPORTS
Chris Bromley went on to say that he had helped to man the Area's trade stand
at the Buxton Swap Meet.
Roy Allam (Area Ach Sch Con) reported on see a report on local television about a model club near to Clitheroe being ousted from their site. Chris Bromley said that he was aware of the situation. And went on to say that the group involved did not take up the opportunity to talk to the council and did not attend arranged meetings. This resulted in decisions being made to their detriment. The BMFA was only consulted when the matter had gone to far.
Steve Ogden (Area Sec) stated that he and Sue Reeves had a brisk start to the year attending several swap meets with the stand and also a new show at Winterton over the Easter weekend.
Geof Pomfret (Area Scale Comp Sec) said that preparations for the Eddie Riding competition were going well but that he would like confirmation that the budget would be the same as last year. This was agreed. John O'Donnell enquired about the jetx class and suggested that it should not be run, as recently the standard was so low that there have been no qualifying flights. Roy Lever clarified the fact that only jetx powered model were eligible for the trophy and that rapier powered ones were not. It was suggested that there should be a class just for rapier powered models, and that the Area would provide a trophy for it. Chris Bromley said that the rules and the classes were up to the event director Geoff Pomfret.
Sue Reeves (Area Ed Co Ord.) stated that she was aware of only 25 teams that have entered the Fight Challenge with only 1 premier and 2 junior entries from this area. This seems to confirm that interest in this event seems to be declining.
6) COUNCIL MINUTES & AGENDA
7/02/04 Area Council Meeting Mike Colling went through the significant points:
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1, Northern Area's proposal has been referred to ASRC.
2, New guidance notes for A+B tests now available, and also disabled persons
guidelines.
3, Graham Lynne was progressing the work on the County based structure.
4, Report form for problems with ARTF models, this has yet to produce any significant
or consistent results.
At this point Alan Cantwell voiced his concerns over the dubious build quality
of some of the larger ARTF aerobatic models.
5, The removal of examiner status and "B" certificate of a Mr A.W.
Major was unanimously approved. This was due to this person's conduct at a flying
event.
Full Council Agenda 8/05/04
Mike Colling stated that there were quite a few Teams and Team managers to be
approved. At this point John O'Donnell asked as to why the FF rulebooks were
not made available for a recent competition (7th March)? Chris Bromley replied
that he had although there had been some delay they had been completed about
7 weeks ago. So they should have been to hand. John asked if the rulebook could
be split into domestic and FAI. Chris Bromley replied that this was impracticable.
There followed an extend debate on this issue. Mike then asked for guidance
on the way to vote over the proposed changes to the proposed changes for the
"start and finish" times for FF contests. The meeting voted: -
4 For 1 Against 7 Abstentions
That Mike should support the proposal.
7) BMAC
Sue Reeves (Area Ed Co-Ord) had already covered this matter earlier..
8) NW AREA INDOOR R/C & F/F FLY - IN
David Lloyd Jones (Area Pro) reported that this would cost us £150 each
time but we would have the gate money to offset these costs. He suggested that
a charge of £5 to the flyers would be acceptable for the 5-hour sessions.
He added that he would work out a suitable date for the event around September
or October for the next meeting.
Chris Bromley said that if we planned on 2 or 3 events over the winter period
04 - 05 we should have successful events.
ACTION AREA PRO
9) NW AREA RC SCALE FLY-IN
DLJ said that he had now got permission to use RAF Shawbury for the event during
September. This would cost the Area a £100 donation to the CO's charity
fund. There was a discussion on whether or not to charge attending pilots. The
meeting agreed that there was to be no charge to pilots attending. Roy Lever
asked if this meant that we would no longer be requiring the use of his field?
The meeting confirmed that we would not. Steve Ogden (Area Sec) proposed a vote
of thanks to Roy for his support of the Fly - In over the last few years. This
was agreed unanimously.
ACTION AREA PRO
10) AOB
Gerry Ferer (Timperley MF) asked if the BMFA stand would be at the FF Nats at
Barkston and if FF was well represented with documentation and pictures on the
display stand. Chris Bromley said that the stand covered all disciplines equally
and that there were several photos of FF models on the display board.
James Abbott (Barton MFC) wanted it to be recorded that he was now the clubs point of contact and delegate.
The meetings ended at 10.48pm
These minutes are provisional until approved at the next meeting.
S.F.Ogden North West Area