Minutes of the Meeting of the BMFA North West Area
Held on 2nd September 2008 at St Adian's Parish Centre, Winstanley, Wigan.

Persons Present
David Lloyd-Jones Chairman & Delegate/CCMAA
Mike Colling FSMAE Vice Chairman & Wigan MAC
Derek Gilbert Secretary & Treasurer/Sale MFC
Keith Barker Webmaster/ Rochdale MAC
Roy Allam Achievement Sch Co-ord/FCMFA
Steve Ogden PRO/PMAG
John O'Donnell Timperley MF
Tom Anyon Fylde Coast MFA
Syd Bostock-Lawton FSMAE Phoenix
Gerry Ferer Timperley MF
Jim Radcliffe Timperley &DMAC
Bob Welton Hale Hall MAC
Jim Martlew Hindley Green MFC
Sue Reeves PMAG

10 voting

The meeting started at 8.03pm

Apologies for absence.
Max Lloyd and Frank Fletcher.

Correspondence.
None

Minutes of the previous meeting held on 2nd June.
Corrections
J O'D pointed out the incorrect spelling of St Aidan's on page 3
Rochdale proposed and Phoenix seconded that the minutes of the 2nd June meeting be approved. The meeting approved the minutes F: 7 A: 0 Ab: 3.

Matters Arising.
DLJ informed the meeting that he had met Ian Hale at the Nats and felt the point has now been dealt with.
John O'Donnell reaffirmed his view that the Flight Challenge had past it's sell by date. Both John and several at the meeting agreed that a postal competition for schools perhaps as a "semi final" would create more interest. DLJ said that he had informally mentioned it at Council, but little interest raised. It was suggested that MC could raise it, but it was thought to be too late for this year and perhaps a proposal to council would be better. The meeting voted unanimously to raise a proposal and it was agreed that the wording be confirmed by E Mail.
John O'Donnell noted that the rules agreed for the Humbrol Plate did not cover the exclusion of overseas flights. DLJ agreed to enquire the best way to raise this.

Officers' Reports.
The Chairman reported that he and Mike Colling had attended the Llandudno model engineering show. This was well attended and some flying done in the hall, but the area was limited. They felt that they had introduced at least six new members to local clubs and the organizers had asked if we would attend next year.
The Treasurer reported that he was keen to use some of the excess funds we were carrying and noted that, despite the lack of numbers at Woodvale this year, the sales of goods went well and the BMFA had paid us £173 as a part share of the profits.
Roy Allam noted that he had received fewer requests for examiners tests this year. It was also noted that the BMFA web site still had the "hovering M" in the helicopter "B" test!

Council Meetings.
Full Council Meeting Agenda 13 September
The Delegate reviewed the agenda in detail for the meeting.
The content was mostly to receive reports and the Delegate was therefore not able to comment as we do not know the content yet.
It was agreed to support the proposal from Silent Flight Technical Committee regarding expenses for towmen.
The meeting agreed to support the need for a report from the archivist and felt the BMFA should also be compiling a history of the association. The Delegate said he would raise this as there was concern that history is being lost as time marches on.

Area Fly-ins
DLJ noted that there were 62 aircraft at the Shawbury meeting and it was an excellent day with good weather.
A proposal was made by CCMAA and seconded by Phoenix that the Treasurer pay a donation £100 to the Shawbury club for their assistance with the meeting. This was unanimously passed by the meeting.
DLJ reported that, despite the weather, the Eddie Riding went very well. It was very encouraging to see the following of the spectators even though the flying was moved to the other end of the airfield.
Tom Anyon commented that the prizes seemed less than last year and wondered if we could spend more. It was agreed that we did not need to increase the prizes as it was felt they were not the reason for the entries.
John O'Donnell asked how the area was publicizing it and if the results and photos will be in the magazines. DLJ replied that most magazines have copy and he would do something for the web site.
Keith Barker reminded the meeting that the first indoor meeting at Rochdale is on 19 October and, as Walter has sold his business, will be looking for another trader.

FUNDING
Following a request from the Treasurer for projects we could use our surplus funds for, Syd Bostock-Lawton informed the meeting that he had a quote of £10 each for windsocks which with screen printing would probably cost £1,700 to send one to every club in the area. The meeting voted : for 8, against 1 with no abstentions and he was asked to take the project further.

AOB
The social club manager had informed us that we could not now have the date for the AGM as a carol service was booked for the room. It was agreed to move the 2008 AGM date to Wednesday 3rd December.


The meeting closed at 10.24pm.

These minutes are provisional until approved at the next area meeting.